… a remarkably accurate rendition of just another day in the Cartwood Mansion. See, money – for money’s sake – IS important 😉
… a remarkably accurate rendition of just another day in the Cartwood Mansion. See, money – for money’s sake – IS important 😉
Last time, we looked at dealing with inflation before we retire (a.k.a. Life After Work), to see that $40k a year of current needs means that you need to be able to generate somewhere between $100k and $125k per year, IF you want to retire in 30 years.
Even if we manage to build up the $2.8 million nest egg that Pinyo talks about (or the $1.8 million one that the following reader talks about), we have a problem, illustrated by the comment by Elaine on Pinyo’s post:
I don’t see interest included in the calculations here. Even at 4%, *just the annual interest* on 1.8 million will cover your annual needs. Not that that’s a bad thing, you’ll still have 1.8 mil left when you die. If you plan to use up all your money in retirement the necessary amount would be quite a bit lower.
Elaine has ‘forgotten’ about inflation; this doesn’t stop just because you retire!
You earn 4% on your money and before you get to spend any of it, Mr Inflation ’spends’ 3.5% for you … I asked Elaine if she can live off just 0.5% of $1.8 Million?
When you retire, if you have your money just sitting in the bank, inflation will simply kill you, financially-speaking.
On the other hand, if Elaine buys a $1.8 mill. rental property (paying 100% cash, forgetting closing costs) the property will increase in value WITH inflation, as will the rents … an inflation-proof retirement (or, she can buy TIPS, inflation-protected government bonds … etc., etc.)
I was just rereading last week’s post where I said that I believed delayed gratification to be the most important Making Money 101 tool of them all.
And, as I said, I truly believed this to be the secret of my financial success …
… until this very morning!
Let me backtrack a little: we delayed gratification (MM101), built up our business income (MM201) and socked money away in passive investments (to prepare for MM301) and we finally made it.
We then started to really live our ‘new life’ as multi-millionaires: we acquired the houses, the cars, the paintings, the vacations, the technology …
[AJC: feel sorry for us, yet? 😉 ]
… but, today we did something just as important (since we are stripping and renovating entirely the new house, which is actually an old house, built in the 1940’s and last renovated some 20 years ago):
We sold some second hand light-fittings for almost $200!
No, you didn’t misread: the new multi-millionaires didn’t just say to the builders “it’s a soon-to-be $6 mill house, so throw the junk away … or, take what you want” … they sold some stuff for $200 😛
Just in case you still don’t see the irony, here was the process:
1. We went to the house and decided what we wanted to sell: a few light fittings; some old built-in shelving (total hoped-for sales price circa $700)
2. We photographed everything that we wanted to sell
3. My wife and son listed each item on eBay (about 5 or 6 separate auctions)
4. My wife dealt with the two ‘winners’ (only two of the items actually sold first time around: both were light fittings)
5. I met the winners separately at the house and helped them remove the light fittings
6. I ‘upsold’ both: one with a heated-towel rail and extra light fitting for an additional $9, and the other for an additional $50 of lights
7. My wife and son are busy relisting the shelving and unsold lights as I am writing this … Round 2. Ding!
So, I spent a whole morning – plus all of the lead-up work – ‘earning’ exactly $140 …
… in some circles (millionaire circles, that is) that would be regarded as sick 😉
But, that’s when it hit me: it was not delayed gratification that set the grounds for our later financial success …
… that’s a result, not a cause.
And, it wasn’t saving 15% – 50% of our income, or putting money into a 401k, and so on … they are all results, not causes.
It was the respect that we had and still have for money as a tool to help us live our Life’s Purpose that caused us to do all of these things …
… read that again, carefully: I didn’t say ‘love’ or ‘need’ or ‘desire’ or ‘greed’ … I said respect.
If we want the money to live our Life’s Purpose, we have to respect money as one of the tools (just one, not even the most important) to help us achieve that. Just as a hunting nomad would respect his hunting weapons, a farmer his plot of land, a charter pilot his aircraft, and so on: we respect the money that feeds us and fuels our needs.
This means that we don’t squander it needlessly, we save it when necessary, and we spend it when it doesn’t make sense not to … that’s Making Money 101, and it just hit me like a sledgehammer between the eyes: delayed gratification is the tool, but gaining a healthy respect for money is the lesson that we all need to learn.
I won’t forget this lesson … will you?
Flexo (at Consumerism Commentary) wrote an interesting piece on debt reduction; in promoting his Debt Avalanche over the Dave Ramsey’s Debt Snowball, Flexo said:
One major problem I have with the snowball approach is that your largest balance may be significantly more expensive than your smallest balance. Today it is not difficult to find a default interest rate on a credit card north of 30%. There is no way in good conscience I could recommend holding off on eliminating a debt this expensive in favor of paying off a small balance with a 7.9% interest rate. The same goes for payday loans, whose fees can border on usurious if interpreted as interest rates.
I agree totally, but then reminded Flexo that there is a third method – one that I humbly invented – called The Cash Cascade which encourages you to consider what you will do AFTER you have paid off your debt … and, perhaps do some of that instead!
Flexo sent me an e-mail and asked me to to “describe at least a summary of [my] method in the comment”, which I did as follows:
We are all familiar with the concept of ‘good debt’ and ‘bad debt’, but most don’t realize that this is only a way of avoiding getting INTO (bad) debt … once we have acquired the debt, then we need to start thinking of debt simply as ‘cheap debt’ or ‘expensive debt’. The Debt Avalanche is clearly ideally suited to attacking the ‘expensive debt’ first.
However, there is another part to this: our ultimate financial goal is usually not to become ‘debt free’ (although, that may be a tactic that some would choose … not me!), rather to achieve financial independence, or wealth, or [insert your life-supporting goal, here], and often a part of the strategy will be to acquire SOME debt in order to get there while you are still young enough to enjoy life e.g. you might decide to take out a mortgage on an investment property, or a margin loan on stocks, or a small business start-up loan, etc.
Clearly, it would make NO sense to delay investing just so that you can pay off relatively cheap debt (e.g. student loan, mortgage, etc.) i.e. just to take out more expensive debt later (e.g. the small business loan) … instead, leave the cheaper loan in place and “pay off’ the more expensive loan by not taking it out in the first place!
Once you think about debt and investment as ‘cheap’ v ‘expensive’, it becomes easier to apply the principles of the Debt Avalanche to both debts AND investments 🙂
Not sure if my thought process was very clear, but it certainly stimulated an unbelievably clear comment, from another reader – Kitty – who said:
I would like to second 7million7years in that keeping fixed low interest debt around instead of repaying could be a valid investment strategy. One thing to keep in mind always is the possibility of future inflation and/or higher interest rates – a reasonable expectation nowadays.
If your debt is at 4.5% now, it may seem like higher than you can get on a normal CD. But what about 5 years from now? During the early 80s where you could get double digit returns on normal bank CDs people who had 30-year fixed mortgages at 9% were feeling very lucky… Long term fixed low interest debt is as much a hedge against inflation as buying commodities or TIPs. In fact I have a couple of multi-millionaire friends who took a mortgage on their vacation home when they could’ve paid for it in cash.
I don’t know if I would finance my vacation home – unless, I had something MUCH better to do with the money – but: “long term fixed low interest debt is as much a hedge against inflation as buying commodities or TIPs” …
… using debt as a Making Money 301 tool? Brilliant, Kitty!!
I only wish that I had thought of it, first 🙂
This post first appeared on my personal blog at Share Your Number, but I thought it was worth repeating here …
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MoneyNing acts surprised when he found out that “Steal-$50-Billion-From-Charity” Bernie Madoff’s wife gets to keep her house:
“Out of all the coverage of the Bernard Madoff fraud, the one headline that really puzzled me was the point in time when they were negotiating a house that the lawyers claim belonged to Madoff’s wife. It would seem to me that every asset the family owns came from the ponzi scheme, especially since the coupled was married for more than 50 years. However, the court ruled that Ruth (the wife) can keep the house when his husband destroyed so many people’s homes.
How is that fair?”
Well, it’s not fair … but, it’s the law and every person going into business SHOULD take advantage of the protection from liability (but, not criminal liability, as in Bernie’s case … I’m talking about commercial liability, when things simply go wrong in your business) that the law provides … in fact, the laws in Australia – as an example – make it very simple:
1. Put ALL of your personal (non-business) assets into your wife’s name … in the event of a divorce it makes NO difference how your assets are structured.
2. Put ALL of your business (non-personal) assets into a company name (e.g. equivalent of an LLC, S-, or C-corp) … that’s all that you can lose if your business/investments go broke
3. Sign as many personal guarantees as you need to (in YOUR name only) because you should have a ZERO net worth … no need to declare bankruptcy because nobody will bother you when they find out that there’s nothing to get and you then make a ‘generous’ offer to pay, say, 10 cents in the dollar.
[AJC: It’s true; I have a ZERO personal Net Worth … well HAD … I’ve recently broken my own rule because the house is now 50% in my name … not even sure why I did that?! ]
Scummy, but it works 😉
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My Money Blog gives me the excuse to revisit that old chestnut – a favorite of mine, since it is so emotive and is bound to piss off Ramseyphiles, saying:
I’ve been thinking more about whether I should commit some additional funds to pay down the principal on my mortgage and reduce my interest paid.
I like this opening sentence, because it clearly provides the financial motivation to pay off your mortgage early: to reduce your interest paid.
Since interest doesn’t gain you anything, why not pay it off as early as possible?
Simple: because you still need to decide what to do with the mortgage payments that you USED to make, once you stop making them?
If you want to get rich(er) quick(er) you’ll probably put them into some sort of investment that earns you at least an 8.5% long-term return … and, if you REALLY want to get rich(er) quick(er) you might even borrow money so that you buy an even higher performing investment (e.g. ‘start a business’ funds, investment property, margin loan on stocks, etc.) …
… you’re being smart!
But, if you are going to do that later, why not start earlier, when you have more time to:
a) allow compounding to really ‘kick in’, and
b) recover if things should go awry?
Your answer, of course, will be: “because I have a mortgage to pay” …
… when it should be: “you’re right, otherwise I won’t have a retirement”!
We would normally leave things there, but My Money Blog finished his article with a nice suggested strategy when deciding if to pay your mortgage early:
My idea is to simply look at the current yield of a comparable U.S. Treasury bond and compare it to my mortgage interest rate. If my mortgage interest rate is a lot higher than the bond rate, then I should pay extra towards the mortgage. Otherwise, if the Treasury rate is higher, then I should invest in bonds or bank accounts directly instead. If it’s close, stick with liquidity.
My Money Blog seems to have the right idea: compare the AFTER TAX mortgage savings with what you can earn elsewhere, but comparing to the cash / bond rate is too conservative for most people.
Look, you’re in this for the long-term (eg do you have 20+ years left before you plan to retire?), so put your money where you can get the best 20+ year return; this is the order:
Businesses
Real-Estate
Individual Stocks
Index Funds
Bonds
CD’s
Cash
Start as close to the top as you feel comfortable handling eg
You may have no interest/aptitude in either real-estate, businesses, or even learning about how to value companies/stocks, so you may simply buy a low cost Index Fund and wait 20+ years for your return …
… but, no matter which you pick (unless, you are wading down at the Bonds, Cd, Cash end) – and, you have 20+ years to ‘play with’ – it’s really no contest 😉
It may be OK to choose an activity that some would consider ‘gambling’ to make your money: trading stocks and options; trading options; flipping real-estate …
… or, in this case, it’s Phil Ivey who many consider to be the ‘Tiger Woods of Poker’ a.k.a. The World’s Greatest Poker Player.
But, listen closely, in the 10 seconds from 5:00 you will hear the likely source of his eventual demise – Phil Ivey’s Financial Archilles Heel.
If this is you, seek help now … if you want to reach your Number by your Date, you may need to take a few chances to make your money, but once it’s in your hands you don’t want to risk just throwing away a penny of it!
Well, after a week of up/down – but, mainly DOWN – blog time, we have our new site up and running! Please let me know what you think?!
Thanks for your patience … FINALLY, here is today’s post 🙂
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Oh, if only we earned three times more than we do today …
… then we could tithe, save, and meet our financial goals. Life would be SO much easier 😉
Rick puts it simply:
Saving half your income is far easier if you make $180,000/year than if you are making $61,000/year.
I’m not so sure: there is a cruel financial joke; it goes something like this:
– earn $50k, spend $50k?
– earn $150k, spend $150k!
The good/bad habits are made when you ARE earning $61k per year … at least, in my experience. And, in Scott’s (who is an Ultra High Income doctor) experience, as well:
Even if we brought home a third of what we do now, we would simply have a smaller mortgage, lower taxes, lower resulting insurance and lower costs in several other areas and we would be saving a large percentage of our salaries as well. This is were delayed gratification comes into play
The reason WHY Scott can save half his income, is because he started off with low expectations, and kept them in check, even as his income grew and grew and grew:
I guess people think that i’m super frugal and living a little on the miserly side, since we are saving half of our net income per month. But, the thing is, we net 15-16k per month now. If I can’t find some kind of peace and enjoyment on half of that after growing up poor, then I have serious problems!
Peace and enjoyment is found in frugal living for some, and living ‘large’ for others; what matters most, I believe, is that you live within whatever means you decide to put together 🙂
I’m proud to be able to give my loyal readers a sneak preview of the infomercial for my new book!
Make sure you buy one for yourself and two for your friends … and, make sure they do the same … and, so on … and, so on …. sweet (for me) 😉
If you want to skip the racial slant to this great video, just scroll forward to about 1:55 seconds and listen for 30 seconds …
… if you want to skip the swearing, just scroll forward to 4:06 😛
Chris Rock is a financial genius, he describes the difference between being “rich” (having money to splash around) and being “wealthy”, for example:
– Being ‘wealthy’ means that you buy a walmart store so that you have money to pass on to the generations; being ‘rich’ means that you go out and buy some jewelery
– ‘Wealth’ is passed down from generation to generation; ‘rich’ is blown on a drug habit
– ‘Wealthy’ people preserve their money; ‘rich’ people spend money like water
Surprisingly good financial advice from an unexpected source!