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		<title>Avoid wiggly-line investments!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://7million7years.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Screen-shot-2010-11-25-at-11.17.16-PM1.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5559" title="Screen shot 2010-11-25 at 11.17.16 PM" src="http://7million7years.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Screen-shot-2010-11-25-at-11.17.16-PM1-255x300.png" alt="" width="255" height="300" /></a>UPDATE</strong>: We have a winner in my $700 in 7 Days Giveaway &#8230; yep, &#8216;barbaramontgom&#8217; (with 6 points) was chosen by random drawing (see below) and wins the entire $700 Cash!!!!!! Barbara just needs to send me an e-mail ajc [at] 7million7years [dot] com to claim her $700 cash prize (less any PayPal fees)!</p>
<p>Bet you wished that you had entered <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>CNNMoney fields a <a title="CNNMoney Article" href="http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/pf/expert/investing_with_low_risk.moneymag/index.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">question</span></a> from a reader who&#8217;s scared that her money will run out before she does:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Question:</strong> I recently had to take early retirement at age 57  because of back problems. I&#8217;m now looking for a safe place to invest my  retirement money where I&#8217;ll have no risk losing it. Any suggestions?  &#8212;  <em>Donald H., Morris, Alabama</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I have a suggestion: don&#8217;t post your questions to a financial &#8216;expert&#8217; who still works for a living!</p>
<p>If you do, you&#8217;ll get answers like:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Answer</strong>: If the threat of losing principal were the only  financial risk you had to protect yourself against in retirement, then  finding a safe haven for your money would be pretty simple. You could  plow your entire nest egg into Treasury bills or spread it among  FDIC-insured savings accounts and CDs (taking care to stay within the <a href="http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/index.html" target="new">FDIC coverage limits</a>).</p>
<p>But while  doing this would insure that you would never lose a cent of your money,  it would also insure that your retirement stash earned a pretty measly  return.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good, so far &#8230; so, no cash. Got it!</p>
<p>What should she do instead (?):</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to have a decent shot at your retirement savings lasting  as long as you do, you also want to invest in a way that has at least  some potential for long-term growth.</p>
<p>[Keep some in cash and the] rest of your savings you want to keep in a diversified portfolio of  stock and bond funds. Again, there&#8217;s no single correct mix. Typically,  though, someone just entering retirement might have 50% or so of his or  her portfolio in stocks and the rest in bonds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Zowie!</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: If you are aiming to retire, why do you want long-term growth?!</p>
<p><strong>Answer</strong>: Because, you <span style="text-decoration: underline;">expect</span> to lose some significant proportion of your capital to:</p>
<p>- Spending too much,</p>
<p>- Inflation,</p>
<p>- Market downturns.</p>
<p>In other words, the expert recommends to invest in a &#8216;wiggly line&#8217; investment, hoping that the upswings outweigh <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all</span> the downswings + spending <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after inflation is taken into account</span>.</p>
<p>How well has that been working out for the past, oh, 20 years?</p>
<p>So, can you think of an investment that tends to grow with inflation, and provides income that also tends to grow with inflation?</p>
<p>Well those treasury-protected bonds certainly have principal that keeps up with inflation, but the returns are so low that income will become a real problem.</p>
<p>But, what about real-estate?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s where &#8216;the rich&#8217; have kept the bulk of their retirement savings since time immemorial &#8230; I wonder why? <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>It&#039;s all about the curve &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The secret to making money can actually be most easily explained visually; at least I&#8217;m going to have a go at trying to explain it visually in this three-part series: The Straight Line Curve A straight line is actually a &#8216;curve&#8217; mathematically / graphically-speaking &#8230; &#8230; but, financially-speaking it describes a situation where you may [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The secret to making money can actually be most easily explained visually; at least I&#8217;m going to have a go at trying to explain it visually in this three-part series</em>:</p>
<h4>The Straight Line Curve</h4>
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<p><a title="Straight Line" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_line" target="_blank">A straight line is actually a &#8216;curve&#8217;</a> mathematically / graphically-speaking &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; but, financially-speaking it describes a situation where you may have a lump sum just sitting in CD&#8217;s and <a title="Bankrate.com" href="http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/cd-investments/cd-investment-results.aspx?local=false&amp;tab=cds&amp;prods=15" target="_blank">earning you 2.5%</a> and you withdraw the interest to spend. This describes a basic <a title="Making Money 301" href="http://7million7years.com/making-money-301/" target="_blank">Making Money 301</a> situation where you may have already reached your <a title="Share Your Number home page" href="http://www.shareyournumber.com/" target="_blank">Number</a>, want to keep it in the bank (safe, right?), and can afford to just live off the interest.</p>
<p>[AJC: <em>This would be OK, if it were not for the effects of inflation; in reality, your Net Worth would be decreasing as inflation erodes the buying power of your lump sum savings</em>]</p>
<p>This &#8216;curve&#8217; also describes what happens when you earn money primarily from your own labor: you have a &#8216;lump sum&#8217; (i.e. the total number of hours that you can apply to your job/profession), which provides a &#8216;fixed return&#8217; (i.e. the hourly rate that you are paid or charge) that you spend / live off: nice, while lasts <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Given that none of my readers are interested in &#8216;straight-lining&#8217; their way to certain financial &#8216;death&#8217;, in the next two parts of this series, we will examine ways to accelerate your returns &#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>The lesser of two evils?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Ramit Seth of I Will Teach You To Be Rich recently arose from his bunker &#8211; where he has been holed up, busy polishing the manuscript to his latest book [publishers please!] to pose the question:  “Should I invest in CDs or a Roth IRA?” The post was brief, and to the point: Sherene writes: [...]]]></description>
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<p>Ramit Seth of <a title="Should I Invest In CD's or a Roth IRA post?" href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/should-i-invest-in-cds-or-a-roth-ira" target="_blank">I Will Teach You To Be Rich </a>recently arose from his bunker &#8211; where he has been holed up, busy polishing the manuscript to his latest book [publishers please!] to pose the question:</p>
<h3> <a title="Permanent Link to “Should I invest in CDs or a Roth IRA?”" href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/should-i-invest-in-cds-or-a-roth-ira">“Should I invest in CDs or a Roth IRA?”</a></h3>
<p>The post was brief, and to the point:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sherene writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>I am a recent college graduate and I want to put the little money I have saved (approx $3,000) into something that will give me good returns over the years. Would you suggest I get CDs or a Roth IRA</em>?&#8221;</p>
<p>The two are very different.</p>
<p>A Roth IRA is an investment account, but once you get it, you have to put money in it and invest. You can read all about it on my article <strong><a href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/the-worlds-easiest-guide-to-understanding-retirement-accounts"><span style="color:#007bb6;">The World’s Easiest Guide to Retirement Accounts</span></a></strong>.</p>
<p>A CD is a type of investment, which you can buy inside (or outside) of any investment account. And if you’re wondering what I think about CDs/bonds…</p></blockquote>
<p>It was the last line that triggered the most comments &#8230; and, of course those comments were split into four camps:</p>
<p>1. Pro-CD&#8217;s</p>
<p>2. Pro-Bonds</p>
<p>3. A little of both</p>
<p>4. Ramit, why don&#8217;t you write more <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, these miss the point &#8230;</p>
<p>Are you an ACTIVE investor or a PASSIVE investor?</p>
<h3>Active Investor</h3>
<p>You will have realized that you <a title="who needs more than $1 million post" href="http://7million7years.com/2008/02/20/who-needs-more-than-1000000/" target="_blank">can&#8217;t retire on $1,000,000 in 15 to 20 years</a>. And, inflation will serve to ensure that investing greatly in either Bonds or CD&#8217;s will keep you poor.</p>
<p>Therefore, you will be looking for direct (maybe leveraged through margin borrowing, if you have the &#8216;appetite&#8217;) investments in a very few stocks that you understand and love, a business here or there if you have the aptitude and interest, and/or a few well-chosen real-estate investments.</p>
<p>You will manage these for growth and hold until they no longer make sense to keep, or you retire (and, want to adjust your investment strategy).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any room in this portfolio for either CD&#8217;s or Bonds, except as short-term vehicles for parking cash while you gear up for the &#8216;next big thing&#8217; do you?</p>
<h3>Passive Investor</h3>
<p>OK, so we don&#8217;t all want to be rich &#8230; and some of you are just window-shopping this blog (or, seeing how the &#8216;other half&#8217; lives?).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that you DO subscribe to the $1,000,000 (or even $2,000,000) in 15 &#8211; 20 year philosophy (yes, I even had some applicants for my <a title="7 Millionaires ... In Training! The Site!!" href="http://7m7y.com/" target="_blank">7 Millionaires &#8230; In Training!</a> &#8217;experiment&#8217; with that outlook &#8230; they don&#8217;t need my training; they just need Valium!) &#8230; what then?</p>
<p>Firstly, you will be looking to max out your 401k/ROTH certainly enough for the full employer-match; this will probably mean selecting from the list of funds available &#8230; unlikely to include Bonds (although, there may be a Bond Fund in there, somewhere) and certainly CD&#8217;s won&#8217;t be an option. So, it&#8217;s a moot point.</p>
<p>Secondly, you will probably be looking to invest in buying a home &#8230; saving a deposit, making payments, etc. then trading up as soon as the sun starts to shine (now, there&#8217;s a financial treadmill for you!). So, it&#8217;s a moot point.</p>
<p>But, Uncle Harry might die and leave you with $20,000 and you are suddenly faced with the decision: CD&#8217;s or Bonds &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;. hah, you think you got me? No way!</p>
<p>I would be immediately looking at becoming an Active Investor ($20k might just be enough for a deposit on that nice little rental &#8216;fixer upper&#8217; down the street).</p>
<p>But, let&#8217;s say that you still are determined to retire late and poor &#8230; but, don&#8217;t want to be <strong>quite</strong> so poor &#8230; where would I go for advice on conservatively investing that nice little chunk of change?</p>
<p>Hmmm &#8230; when I look for investing advice, I usually look to the best in the business. That&#8217;s why I went to Warren Buffett&#8217;s Annual General Meeting in Omaha a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>At the meeting, Warren suggested that IF you don&#8217;t really know what you&#8217;re doing, you should dollar-cost average (that means put a little bit over time) into little pieces of all of &#8220;American Business&#8221; &#8230; he later clarified that to mean a low-cost Index Fund (in fact, he named Vanguard).</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Well inflation will keep your CD&#8217;s and Bonds worthless &#8230; by buying and holding Index Funds (LOW-COST ones) for a VERY LONG time, the market will go up (there hasn&#8217;t been a SINGLE 30-year period where the market hasn&#8217;t averaged an 8% return) and you will stand a better chance to beat inflation &#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, none of these PASSIVE investment strategies will make you rich (or even financially free at a young age), but Warren&#8217;s strategy at least has a better chance of keeping you out of the poor house, and giving you a chance of retiring at 55 or 65 &#8230; IF you start young enough, and maintain the course for 20+ years!</p>
<p>But, what if you don&#8217;t want to invest in stocks at all &#8230; even via an ultra-low-cost Index Fund? Is it <strong>then</strong>OK to invest in Bonds or CD&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Maybe, but I would <strong>much rather</strong> plonk that $20k into my mortgage!</p>
<p>I know that <a title="Contrary to popular opinion, paying off your mortgage is the dumbest move you can make post" href="http://7million7years.com/2008/05/13/contrary-to-popular-opinion-paying-off-your-mortgage-is-the-dumbest-move-you-can-make/" target="_blank">I said that it&#8217;s a dumb strategy</a>, but it&#8217;s sure better than the CD/Bond alternative (better after-tax returns, but check with your financial adviser before doing anything!).</p>
<p>In fact, the only time that I would invest in:</p>
<p>1. CD&#8217;s &#8211; when I need to &#8216;park&#8217; some money for a while &#8230; waiting for the next ideal investment to come along.</p>
<p>2. Bonds &#8211; when I am already rich and retired: Bonds can play an important part in <strong>maintaining wealth</strong> as part of a <a title="Making Money 301 page" href="http://7million7years.com/making-money-301/" target="_blank">Making Money 301 </a>strategy. As Ramit mentions in his comments, Bonds can be laddered (that means bought with a variety of expiry/cash-out dates).</p>
<p>For two great Bonds-in-Retirement strategies, read: <a title="Worry Free Investing on Amazon [NOT an Affiliate Link]" href="http://www.amazon.com/Worry-Free-Investing/dp/B000BMZDRW" target="_blank">Worry Free Investing by Zvi Bodie </a>and <a title="The Grangaard Strategy on Amazon [NOT an Affiliate Link]" href="http://www.amazon.com/Grangaard-Strategy-Invest-During-Retirement/dp/0399528474/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1211297708&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">The Grangaard Strategy by Paul Grangaard</a>.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s go and get rich!</p>
<p>PS For more Personal Finance articles visit: <a href="http://ptmoney.com/2008/06/09/the-156th-carnival-of-personal-finance-songs-of-summer/">http://ptmoney.com/2008/06/09/the-156th-carnival-of-personal-finance-songs-of-summer/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you know, I&#8217;m a member of Networth IQ - and quite an active member, at that! I love reading and answering questions &#8230;  [AJC: you've probably already seen that from the detailed responses that I try and give commenters on my posts on this blog ... try me, if you have a question ... [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know, I&#8217;m a member of <a title="Networth IQ home page" href="http://www.networthiq.com/" target="_blank">Networth IQ </a>- and quite an <a title="7million7year's Networth IQ profile" href="http://www.networthiq.com/people/7million7years" target="_blank">active member</a>, at that! I love reading and answering questions &#8230; </p>
<p>[<em>AJC: you've probably already seen that from the detailed responses that I try and give commenters on my posts on this blog ... try me, if you have a question ... I just won't give direct personal advice, because I am not a qualified professional, but I will give general advice if I think it will benefit all of our readers</em>]</p>
<p>&#8230; and this unique site provides a great platform (as does <a title="Tickerhound.com home page" href="http://www.tickerhound.com/" target="_blank">Tickerhound</a>, which provides a great Q&amp;A forum on everything from stocks to real-estate).</p>
<p>For those of you who aren&#8217;t members of Networth IQ, here is an exerpt of a <a title="Networth IQ question" href="http://www.networthiq.com/people/Frog_N_Toad/questions/business-for-sale" target="_blank">great question</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I found a business for sale that has generated the following free cash flows since 1998.</p>
<p>1998 &#8211; $3,426.0 Mil<br />
1999 &#8211; $3,949.0 Mil<br />
2000 &#8211; $4,917.0 Mil<br />
2001 &#8211; $7,133.0 Mil<br />
2002 &#8211; $6,077.0 Mil<br />
2003 &#8211; $8,333.0 Mil<br />
2004 &#8211; $8,956.0 Mil<br />
2005 &#8211; $9,245.0 Mil<br />
2006 &#8211; $11,582.0 Mil<br />
2007 &#8211; $12,307.0 Mil</p>
<p>The current owners are asking $183.49 Bil, &#8230;. I don&#8217;t have $183.49 Bil, but they said that they would sell me a smaller portion of the business if I wanted &#8230; Should I buy?</p></blockquote>
<p>I like this question on two levels:</p>
<p>1. It&#8217;s a neat reminder that when we buy stocks, we&#8217;re not just buying &#8216;bits of paper&#8217; &#8230; we&#8217;re buying a small piece of a real, live business!</p>
<p>And,</p>
<p>2. It gives me an opportunity to show you the sorts of questions that I would ask &#8211; and the types of information that I would be looking at before buying into this &#8211; or any &#8211; business.</p>
<p>According to Warren Buffet (or sources who purport to know how he works) the <a title="What is Intrinsic Value?" href="http://www.investorwords.com/2587/intrinsic_value.html" target="_blank">intrinsic value </a>of a business is in its <a title="What is a Discounted Cashflow?" href="http://www.investorwords.com/1476/Discounted_Cash_Flow_Analysis.html" target="_blank">discounted cashflow</a>.</p>
<p>That is, a business is &#8211; or should be &#8211; a cash machine &#8230; what&#8217;s the reason for owning it, if not to get some cash out?</p>
<p>So, in the above example, we should be able to decide if the business is worth $183.49 Billion (not knowing the company in the above excerpt, I am assuming that this number represents the entire current market capitalization of the business) by discounting the cash-flows shown above &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; a quick look at the most recent cash-flow figure shows that it is currently producing $12 Bill. cash per year (probably growing, if history is any guide); that would mean about 15 years to get our money back &#8230; yuk.</p>
<p>Now you know why the stock market is generally a fool&#8217;s game &#8230; I would by far prefer to invest in my own business, or buy a private one at &#8216;only&#8217; 3 to 5 years free cash-flow (better yet, Net Income), and grow it &#8230; then float it myself!</p>
<p>Or, at least sell it to a public company who can immediately &#8216;claim&#8217; 15 times my Net Profit (hence, give me 7 to 12 times my Net Profit).</p>
<p>But, if we are going to play &#8216;the stock market&#8217; game, what would we need to know before we can make an informed decision about &#8216;investing&#8217; in this stock?</p>
<div class="comment-body">Hmmm &#8230;</div>
<div class="comment-body">As I pointed out, the free cash-flows on their own say nothing &#8230;</div>
<div class="comment-body">For example, I recently sold two similar businesses: one had been going for many years and generated &#8216;free cash flows&#8217; [now that's an oxymoron!] of $1 mill. and the other was less than 2 years old and had yet to make a dime.</div>
<div class="comment-body">Yet, I sold them both (separately) for about the same price! So, there must be more to the valuation of a business than Free Cash-flows, right? Absolutely!Let&#8217;s start with Return on Invested Capital:</div>
<div class="comment-body">I&#8217;d like to know what it has been for this company (and, the industry) over the past 5 years? I&#8217;d like to see an improving trend in excess of 15%, please.</div>
<div class="comment-body">Then, is the company growing?</div>
<div class="comment-body">Cash Flow is just one measure (but, what about operating cash-flow &#8230; have they made any strategic purchases / major capital expenditures /etc.), so what about the 10 years trends in: Earnings? Book Value? And, what about plain, old Sales?</div>
<div class="comment-body">I&#8217;d like to see a history of growth (min. 10%) in all of these &#8230;Now, how is there debt situation?</div>
<div class="comment-body">How long will it take them to cover their long-term liabilities from &#8216;Free Cash Flow&#8217;?</div>
<div class="comment-body">I&#8217;d like to see no more than 2 to 3 years.</div>
<div class="comment-body">Do the people who run the company own stock? Are they buying or selling?</div>
<div class="comment-body">Tell me about the company: do they have a &#8216;sustainable competitive advantage&#8217; (what Warren Buffet calls a &#8216;Moat&#8217; &#8230; but, that&#8217;s too much water for me!).</div>
<p>Do I believe this company will be around for the next 100 years &#8230; do I really want to buy THIS business in THIS industry?</p>
<p>Lastly, if I like the answers to all of the above (unlikely &#8230; so far I&#8217;ve only liked the answers to similar questions for 7 companies out of the 5,000+ that I can currently buy a &#8216;piece&#8217; of) &#8230;</p>
<div class="comment-body">&#8230;. then how CHEAP can I get this thing!?</div>
<div class="comment-body">PS I made the &#8216;other&#8217; category &#8230; waaaayyyyyy down at the bottom of the <a title="150th Carnical of Personal Finance" href="http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/carnival-of-personal-finance-150/" target="_blank">150th Carnival of Personal Finance</a> &#8230; whoo hoo!</div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome new readers!</p>
<p>Here are three of my favorite posts to get you started; if you want to find out:</p>
<p>1. If $1 million will be enough to retire with, then <a title="Will $1 million be enough when I retire?" href="http://7million7years.com/2009/08/06/will-a-million-dollars-be-enough-when-i-retire/" target="_blank"><strong>click here</strong></a>, or</p>
<p>2. How much house you can afford, then <a title="How much to spend on a house ..." href="../2008/02/04/how-much-to-spend-on-a-house/" target="_blank"><strong>click here</strong></a>, or</p>
<p>3. Why buying a new car is such a losing proposition, then <a title="Cars and Radiation" href="http://7million7years.com/2009/11/30/cars-and-radiation/" target="_blank"><strong>click here</strong></a>.</p>
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<p>&#8220;<strong>How much interest do you earn on one million dollars?</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>This was the question that <a title="Accumulating Money's About page" href="http://www.accumulatingmoney.com/aboutcontact-info/" target="_blank">Clint at Accumulating Money </a>asked in a &#8216;classic&#8217; post &#8211; I commented on it earlier this year and still receive click-through&#8217;s two or three months later. It must be a very popular question!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why, because it implies that people are happy to just have their life savings &#8216;sit&#8217; in CD&#8217;s &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; but, here&#8217;s the answer to the &#8220;million dollar&#8221; question <a title="How much interest does one million dollars earn post" href="http://www.accumulatingmoney.com/how-much-interest-do-you-earn-on-one-million-dollars/" target="_blank">courtesty of Accumulating Money</a> anyway:</p>
<blockquote><p>So, to answer the question, how much interest do you earn on One Million Dollars (assuming a 4% interest rate, compounded monthly)?</p>
<p>One Day &#8211; $109.59</p>
<p>One Month &#8211; $3,333.33</p>
<p>One Year &#8211; $40,741.54</p>
<p>Five Years &#8211; $220,996.59</p>
<p>Ten Years &#8211; $490,832.68</p>
<p>Twenty Years &#8211; $1,222,582.09</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this related question asked by Afroblanco <a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/86661/Whats-the-safest-possible-thing-that-I-can-do-with-my-money"><span style="color:#8a3207;">at Ask Metafilter</span></a> &#8211; repeated on <a title="What's the safest thing I can do with my money post" href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/03/24/whats-the-safest-thing-i-can-do-with-my-money/" target="_blank">Get Rich Slowly </a>(which is where I picked it up) &#8211; really goes to show how The Savers (as opposed to The Investors) think:</p>
<p>“<strong>What’s the safest possible thing that I can do with my money?</strong>” :</p>
<blockquote><p>I take <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_market#Bear_market"><span style="color:#676e04;">bearishness</span></a> to an extreme. Having witnessed the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech_bubble"><span style="color:#676e04;">2000 tech crash</span></a>, I have no faith in the stock market or the US economy. I keep all of my money (USD) in a savings account. However, with the recent financial turmoil, I have a few questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Is it conceivable for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation"><span style="color:#676e04;">FDIC</span></a> to fail?</li>
<li>If so, is there a place where I can put my money that will be safer than a savings account?</li>
<li>What’s the safest, most risk-free way for me to save money and not get killed by inflation and the tanking US dollar?</li>
<li>If there is a safe way for me to save money and not be punished by inflation and the depreciating dollar, is there a way that I can do this without having to stress out and micromanage my finances? I don’t want to be checking the finance page and making adjustments every day.</li>
</ol>
<p>Even though I follow finance news, I’ve never done any investing or money management other than socking money away in my savings account. I’m a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbie"><span style="color:#676e04;">n00b</span></a>, I admit it.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK &#8230; I confess &#8230;. I am like our friend, Afroblanco &#8230; <a title="The scared millionaire post" href="http://7million7years.com/2008/02/19/the-scared-millionaire/" target="_blank">very risk-averse</a>; yet I have become rich by understanding that <strong>it is actually safer to invest than not</strong>.</p>
<p>The GREATEST RISK that our friend can take is NOT TO INVEST &#8230; <a title="Will low interest rates and inflation eat up the interest the bank pays you on your CD's post" href="http://7million7years.com/2008/02/27/will-low-interest-rates-and-inflation-eat-up-the-interest-the-bank-pays-you-on-your-cds/" target="_blank">inflation will just eat up any bank deposit/CD strategy</a>.</p>
<p>Take Accumulating Money&#8217;s example above:</p>
<p><em>One million dollars approximately doubles in 20 years &#8230; but, inflation will halve its buying power!</em></p>
<p>Think about it, if the average bank interest rate is 4% (pushing the value of your savings UP) and inflation averages 4% (pushing the buying power or value of your savings DOWN), what have you gained in 20 years?</p>
<p>Nothing &#8230;</p>
<p>Now, if you just push your savings into a low cost Index Fund that averages, say, an 8% return over the 20 years, then the same 4% inflation means that you should effectively DOUBLE the value (or &#8216;buying power&#8217;) of your million dollars over 20 years.</p>
<p>But, Afroblanco is <strong>even better off</strong> BUYING The Bank [i.e. investing in the Bank's stock] than putting his money in The Bank. The risk of failure is about the same (if the bank fails you will lose the money that you have IN the bank&#8217;s vault as well as the money IN the bank&#8217;s stock), yet, as long as he has a long-term view (minimum 20 to 30 years), the former strategy will make him <strong>rich</strong> and the latter <strong>broke</strong>.</p>
<p>If the bank stock averages just 12% average growth over 20 years - as any well-picked Value Stock, can easily do &#8211; then Afroblanco won&#8217;t just double the buying power of his money ONCE, he will get to double it TWICE &#8230; that&#8217;s $4 million AFTER the effect of inflation (or, the $1 million grows to $10 million in &#8216;raw&#8217; dollars).</p>
<p>What about risk? Aren&#8217;t bank deposits <a title="What are FDIC Insured deposits?" href="http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insuringdeposits/" target="_blank">FDIC Insured</a>?</p>
<p>[AJC: <em>Well, yeah ... up to a paltry $100k</em> - <em>of course, you could open up 4 bank accounts at 4 different banks  ... but, $400k is hardly what I hope my readers are aiming at</em>!]</p>
<p>But, <strong>inflation is a much bigger risk</strong>: 100% certain to eat up your money &#8230; and, would the Federal Government (the same entity backing the FDIC) allow a Major US Retail Bank to fail?</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ll find out in the next few months!</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s likely, then isn&#8217;t your money just as safe in The Bank as it is in the bank?</p>
<p>[AJC: <em>think about it</em> <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
<p>And, doesn&#8217;t The Bank&#8217;s stock at least meet the overall market returns which averaged 8% p.a. for the past 100 years &#8230; what have bank deposits averaged in that time? 3%? 5%?</p>
<p>The point here is not necessarily to buy stock in The Bank &#8230; rather it&#8217;s to think about Investing rather than Saving &#8230;</p>
<p>Before suggesting WHAT to invest in, we need to know HOW long is our friend is expecting his money to last? Assuming that our friend is a hands-off investor, here&#8217;s what I suggest as the lowest-risk strategies possible:</p>
<p>If less than 30 years, then <a title="What are TIPS?" href="http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=122398" target="_blank">TIPS</a> are a an option - PROVIDED that he can live off the inflation-adjusted interest (unfortunately, very unlikely in the current low interest environment &#8211; but, in 5/10 years, who knows?).</p>
<p>If 30 years or more, then <strong>a low-cost Index Fund is</strong> <strong>ideal for a hands-off investor</strong>. There has been NO 30 year period since the recording of the stock market indices where the market has not produced a positive return well above inflation.</p>
<p>If he is more hands on and/or more knowledgeable, then I would recommend no more than 4 or 5 well-selected individual stocks <strong>and</strong> direct investment in real-estate, for any time period 10 years or greater.</p>
<p><strong>Inflation forces us to invest</strong> &#8230; because of this, inflation is our friend!</p>
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