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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s NEVER going to be enough! by How to manage your life with just $19 Billion &#8230;- 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to manage your life with just $19 Billion &#8230;- 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 09:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which is his lifestyle break-even point i.e. the Rule of 20 says that your nest-egg should be 20 times your required annual living expense, which is currently [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why are professional athletes so horrible with money? by How to manage your life with just $19 Billion &#8230;- 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to manage your life with just $19 Billion &#8230;- 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 09:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is no different to an athlete trading off his contract, and spending money like it&#8217;s forever &#8230; except when it isn&#8217;t, which is why 78% of NFL players and 60% of NBA players are bankrupt within two years of leaving the game. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is no different to an athlete trading off his contract, and spending money like it&#8217;s forever &#8230; except when it isn&#8217;t, which is why 78% of NFL players and 60% of NBA players are bankrupt within two years of leaving the game. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“you are what you own not what you owe”

@ Luis - this is still a &#039;truism&#039; ... it&#039;s the same today, whether you buy a $100k asset for cash or a $1mill. asset for $900k down.

It&#039;s just that, assuming the same 7% compound growth rate on both, with one you will be $100k richer, and the other $1 mill. (less costs) richer, in just 10 years ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“you are what you own not what you owe”</p>
<p>@ Luis &#8211; this is still a &#8216;truism&#8217; &#8230; it&#8217;s the same today, whether you buy a $100k asset for cash or a $1mill. asset for $900k down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that, assuming the same 7% compound growth rate on both, with one you will be $100k richer, and the other $1 mill. (less costs) richer, in just 10 years <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, and then maybe 1.  

This has been my approach now for several years. 

Each time though,  there is a period of internal strife because culturally i have been raised to believe, &quot;you are what you own not what you owe&quot; and getting more debt goes against that certain core upbringing.  

Fortunately, I quickly move on...and pull the trigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, and then maybe 1.  </p>
<p>This has been my approach now for several years. </p>
<p>Each time though,  there is a period of internal strife because culturally i have been raised to believe, &#8220;you are what you own not what you owe&#8221; and getting more debt goes against that certain core upbringing.  </p>
<p>Fortunately, I quickly move on&#8230;and pull the trigger.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ashton- with such poor leverage available in China, it&#039;s not the capital growth that you should be shooting for ... it&#039;s high returns i.e. income from rents.  

@ MoneyBeagle - if you never sell, there is no risk of downturns ;)

@ traineeinvestor - there is nothing intrinsically wrong with interest-only mortgages; it&#039;s the level of starting equity that you hold that determines your risk, under your equation. Even then, it&#039;s moot if you don&#039;t sell (as long as your property is cashflow positive).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ashton- with such poor leverage available in China, it&#8217;s not the capital growth that you should be shooting for &#8230; it&#8217;s high returns i.e. income from rents.  </p>
<p>@ MoneyBeagle &#8211; if you never sell, there is no risk of downturns <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ traineeinvestor &#8211; there is nothing intrinsically wrong with interest-only mortgages; it&#8217;s the level of starting equity that you hold that determines your risk, under your equation. Even then, it&#8217;s moot if you don&#8217;t sell (as long as your property is cashflow positive).</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by traineeinvestor</title>
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		<dc:creator>traineeinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian

Having lived through a couple of downturns, I have to agree with Money Beagle here. Your approach makes perfect sense when it comes to maximising the upside but carries a degree of risk.

Those interest only mortgages are typically for short terms (3-5 years depending on where you live) and need to be rolled over on maturity. A combination of lower valuations, higher interest rates and/or few vacancies can be a fatal combination - as happend in many places in Hong Kong 1997-2003, Australia under Keating, the US in the early 1970s and the GFC, several countries in Asia in 1997 etc etc.

My own approach is to go for long term (20 years is the best I can do here) P+I. I may not be getting the best bang for my buck on the leveraging and have to put down a bigger deposit to get positive cash flow, but I sleep better at night knowing that each month that goes by makes my position a little more secure.

Cheers
traineeinvestor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian</p>
<p>Having lived through a couple of downturns, I have to agree with Money Beagle here. Your approach makes perfect sense when it comes to maximising the upside but carries a degree of risk.</p>
<p>Those interest only mortgages are typically for short terms (3-5 years depending on where you live) and need to be rolled over on maturity. A combination of lower valuations, higher interest rates and/or few vacancies can be a fatal combination &#8211; as happend in many places in Hong Kong 1997-2003, Australia under Keating, the US in the early 1970s and the GFC, several countries in Asia in 1997 etc etc.</p>
<p>My own approach is to go for long term (20 years is the best I can do here) P+I. I may not be getting the best bang for my buck on the leveraging and have to put down a bigger deposit to get positive cash flow, but I sleep better at night knowing that each month that goes by makes my position a little more secure.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
traineeinvestor</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by Money Beagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 13:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s a guaranteed rate of return on the non-principal payment, then it would make sense to go that route.  Unforunately, many of the things that people claim are &#039;better&#039; investments aren&#039;t guaranteed, and can actually lose you money (ie the stock market).  Plus, peace of mind of not having that payment is often &#039;worth&#039; something to many people, a number that has to be added to the rate and is something that each person has to decide for themselves.  I look at it that if you&#039;re working to increase your net worth by smartly increasing your assets and/or decreasing your debt, there&#039;s no wrong in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s a guaranteed rate of return on the non-principal payment, then it would make sense to go that route.  Unforunately, many of the things that people claim are &#8216;better&#8217; investments aren&#8217;t guaranteed, and can actually lose you money (ie the stock market).  Plus, peace of mind of not having that payment is often &#8216;worth&#8217; something to many people, a number that has to be added to the rate and is something that each person has to decide for themselves.  I look at it that if you&#8217;re working to increase your net worth by smartly increasing your assets and/or decreasing your debt, there&#8217;s no wrong in that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; by Ashton Fourie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashton Fourie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 12:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I&#039;d known this stuff when I was living in a country where one could get multiple mortgages!

In China you have to put down 30% for your first mortgage, 60% for the second one, and then there&#039;s no further.  From then on , you buy property 100% cash.  If you offer property as security on any other form of loan, it has to be 100% free of any other debt burden - so you cannot even use a paid property to secure payments for deposits on two other properties (unless you fraudulently misdeclare the purpose of your loan).

And then rental income is generally less than 1% of the capital invested.  (RMB 1mil of property will give you RMB 2 500 per month rent residentially, or RMB 5 000 odd if it&#039;s a business property).

The capital growth, however is phenomenal.  Our apartment&#039;s value doubled in a year, if comparing it to the price that a similar one just above us sold for recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I&#8217;d known this stuff when I was living in a country where one could get multiple mortgages!</p>
<p>In China you have to put down 30% for your first mortgage, 60% for the second one, and then there&#8217;s no further.  From then on , you buy property 100% cash.  If you offer property as security on any other form of loan, it has to be 100% free of any other debt burden &#8211; so you cannot even use a paid property to secure payments for deposits on two other properties (unless you fraudulently misdeclare the purpose of your loan).</p>
<p>And then rental income is generally less than 1% of the capital invested.  (RMB 1mil of property will give you RMB 2 500 per month rent residentially, or RMB 5 000 odd if it&#8217;s a business property).</p>
<p>The capital growth, however is phenomenal.  Our apartment&#8217;s value doubled in a year, if comparing it to the price that a similar one just above us sold for recently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anatomy of a Commercial RE Investment &#8211; Part 3 by How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; - 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to ruin your return by paying off principal &#8230; - 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 11:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while ago, I did a three-part &#8216;anatomy of a commercial real-estate deal&#8217; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s a simple business to start? by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Luis - I think that most people who say they don&#039;t start a business because they don&#039;t know what kind of business to start are procrastinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Luis &#8211; I think that most people who say they don&#8217;t start a business because they don&#8217;t know what kind of business to start are procrastinating.</p>
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