<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Moneytopia?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/</link>
	<description>How to make 7 million in 7 years ...</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 09:20:05 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alfred J Castillo</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3824</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred J Castillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3824</guid>
		<description>This is very neat game, its cool I achieve my goal of 5.9 million dollars in 35 years in the game. In real life I would like to retire with 30 to 40 million in my retirement account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very neat game, its cool I achieve my goal of 5.9 million dollars in 35 years in the game. In real life I would like to retire with 30 to 40 million in my retirement account.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kohti taloudellista riippumattomuutta</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3795</link>
		<dc:creator>Kohti taloudellista riippumattomuutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3795</guid>
		<description>Yes Adrian, you are right. It&#039; impossible to reach this number in that timeframe using mutual funds. No matter how hard you try.

But that&#039;s also a one lesson. It really isn&#039;t possible so people that would like to believe so hopefully finds it now out ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Adrian, you are right. It&#8217; impossible to reach this number in that timeframe using mutual funds. No matter how hard you try.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s also a one lesson. It really isn&#8217;t possible so people that would like to believe so hopefully finds it now out <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rick Francis</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3794</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3794</guid>
		<description>Adrian, 

Say you were crazy frugal and lived on $12,000 and could invest $12,000/year to reach $4 in 7 years requires a CAGR of 110%! 

I have to agree that there is no way a mutual fund is ever going to do that.  

I guess it would be possible to day trade successfully to that level of gains... but the odds of doing so are insanely slim. I wonder if buying lottery tickets would be a more likely path!?!? 

If you could buy on margin maybe- but making $24K could you get a large enough loan? Also any significant drop in the market will likely bankrupt you. Seems like a slim chance of success here too.

As for a business... well it&#039;s certainly possible, but is it that likely? It still seems like a really steep slope... if you are funding it with $12K/year from your day job. If you get a significant business loan then the math changes completely. As long as you personally aren&#039;t liable for the money it seems a reasonable risk. If the business succeeds you reach your goal if it fails you are at $0? I suspect that the chance of success would be at least 20%? 

-Rick Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, </p>
<p>Say you were crazy frugal and lived on $12,000 and could invest $12,000/year to reach $4 in 7 years requires a CAGR of 110%! </p>
<p>I have to agree that there is no way a mutual fund is ever going to do that.  </p>
<p>I guess it would be possible to day trade successfully to that level of gains&#8230; but the odds of doing so are insanely slim. I wonder if buying lottery tickets would be a more likely path!?!? </p>
<p>If you could buy on margin maybe- but making $24K could you get a large enough loan? Also any significant drop in the market will likely bankrupt you. Seems like a slim chance of success here too.</p>
<p>As for a business&#8230; well it&#8217;s certainly possible, but is it that likely? It still seems like a really steep slope&#8230; if you are funding it with $12K/year from your day job. If you get a significant business loan then the math changes completely. As long as you personally aren&#8217;t liable for the money it seems a reasonable risk. If the business succeeds you reach your goal if it fails you are at $0? I suspect that the chance of success would be at least 20%? </p>
<p>-Rick Francis</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3792</guid>
		<description>&quot;Starting a business has a great potential for reaching fortunes but as you know there is also bigger risk involved compared to other methods like investing.&quot;

@ Kohti - Good point; but, I wonder, if your Number is something like the $4 million in 7 years that I tried in the game, isn&#039;t the risk of failure by &quot;investing&quot; (presumably, buying the mutual funds that the game suggests) 100%?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Starting a business has a great potential for reaching fortunes but as you know there is also bigger risk involved compared to other methods like investing.&#8221;</p>
<p>@ Kohti &#8211; Good point; but, I wonder, if your Number is something like the $4 million in 7 years that I tried in the game, isn&#8217;t the risk of failure by &#8220;investing&#8221; (presumably, buying the mutual funds that the game suggests) 100%?!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kohti taloudellista riippumattomuutta</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Kohti taloudellista riippumattomuutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3790</guid>
		<description>Great that you tried it :) I played it too and actually reached the goal that I set.

Yes. You are right. Starting a business has a great potential for reaching fortunes but as you know there is also bigger risk involved compared to other methods like investing.

As it was SEC that sponsored this game it&#039;s no wonder that getting involved into a business is not included in the game. But there are other nice games that try to mimic making business out there.

If there&#039;s a lesson to be found in the game I think it is: start investing early and stick with :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that you tried it <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I played it too and actually reached the goal that I set.</p>
<p>Yes. You are right. Starting a business has a great potential for reaching fortunes but as you know there is also bigger risk involved compared to other methods like investing.</p>
<p>As it was SEC that sponsored this game it&#8217;s no wonder that getting involved into a business is not included in the game. But there are other nice games that try to mimic making business out there.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a lesson to be found in the game I think it is: start investing early and stick with <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3789</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3789</guid>
		<description>@ Trainee - I played it for a couple of hours but it FELT like a couple years :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Trainee &#8211; I played it for a couple of hours but it FELT like a couple years <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: traineeinvestor</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/11/09/moneytopia/comment-page-1/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>traineeinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://7million7years.com/?p=3456#comment-3788</guid>
		<description>I played for a couple of years in the office (it was a slow day).  Waste of time.  Even if you wish to hit your number off savings and investments it is a very poor simulation.

Maybe the point is to demonstrate that a booring savings and investments is just that: a booring way to get poor slowly while having no fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played for a couple of years in the office (it was a slow day).  Waste of time.  Even if you wish to hit your number off savings and investments it is a very poor simulation.</p>
<p>Maybe the point is to demonstrate that a booring savings and investments is just that: a booring way to get poor slowly while having no fun.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

