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		<title>By: Chino Hills Realtor</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/09/21/rent-to-buy-schemes/comment-page-1/#comment-3793</link>
		<dc:creator>Chino Hills Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rent to own can be a really great plan if all the parties involved are above board and have the same win, win mentality. It is a must to do your homework before a buyer make such a commitment, do want to be paying someone&#039;s mortgage when you think it yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rent to own can be a really great plan if all the parties involved are above board and have the same win, win mentality. It is a must to do your homework before a buyer make such a commitment, do want to be paying someone&#8217;s mortgage when you think it yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Rent or buy? Rent to buy!- 7million7years</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2009/09/21/rent-to-buy-schemes/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Rent or buy? Rent to buy!- 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wants to know if he can turn his current rental into a Rent To Buy: Following your most excellent “Money Rules”, I have moved from a (rented) flat costing me ~33% [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wants to know if he can turn his current rental into a Rent To Buy: Following your most excellent “Money Rules”, I have moved from a (rented) flat costing me ~33% [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jim - It depends on what you can save the owner, since you are already renting the house?!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jim &#8211; It depends on what you can save the owner, since you are already renting the house?!</p>
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		<title>By: jimbomahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbomahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian,

(previously been posting as Jimbo I think, but now registered).

Following your most excellent &quot;Money Rules&quot;, I have moved from a (rented) flat costing me ~33% of my (net) monthly income to a small house costing 25% (net). (Of course, being a First Time Buyer, I&#039;ll be breaking the 20% net worth rule to put down a deposit, especially given the level of deposit required to get a decent rate here in the UK).

The current owner seems enthusiastic about the option of selling it to me at some point, but I&#039;d like to ask advice on what sort of &#039;offer&#039; to make. i.e. what sort of contributions my rent payments would be / discount off the market value.

I&#039;m thinking if we both have a valuation done, I offer 15% off the average of the two?

If it makes a difference, this is a relatively cheap home (~£110,000 = $190,000 AUD = $175,000 US).

(If it makes any more of a difference, I expect property prices to continue falling in the UK as the baby boom moves through to retirement - see an interesting paper here http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2005/847/IFDP847.pdf - plugging in the latest UK demographics indicates house prices bottoming out ~ 2018 and previous booms match with 77% correlation^2).

Jimbo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian,</p>
<p>(previously been posting as Jimbo I think, but now registered).</p>
<p>Following your most excellent &#8220;Money Rules&#8221;, I have moved from a (rented) flat costing me ~33% of my (net) monthly income to a small house costing 25% (net). (Of course, being a First Time Buyer, I&#8217;ll be breaking the 20% net worth rule to put down a deposit, especially given the level of deposit required to get a decent rate here in the UK).</p>
<p>The current owner seems enthusiastic about the option of selling it to me at some point, but I&#8217;d like to ask advice on what sort of &#8216;offer&#8217; to make. i.e. what sort of contributions my rent payments would be / discount off the market value.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking if we both have a valuation done, I offer 15% off the average of the two?</p>
<p>If it makes a difference, this is a relatively cheap home (~£110,000 = $190,000 AUD = $175,000 US).</p>
<p>(If it makes any more of a difference, I expect property prices to continue falling in the UK as the baby boom moves through to retirement &#8211; see an interesting paper here <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2005/847/IFDP847.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2005/847/IFDP847.pdf</a> &#8211; plugging in the latest UK demographics indicates house prices bottoming out ~ 2018 and previous booms match with 77% correlation^2).</p>
<p>Jimbo</p>
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		<title>By: Cheapskate Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheapskate Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My aunt fell victim to a real estate scheme and I didn&#039;t find out about it until it was way too late.  Talk to the elderly people in your family on a regular basis to find out what&#039;s going on with them because it is very easy for them to be a victim of these lowlifes without you knowing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My aunt fell victim to a real estate scheme and I didn&#8217;t find out about it until it was way too late.  Talk to the elderly people in your family on a regular basis to find out what&#8217;s going on with them because it is very easy for them to be a victim of these lowlifes without you knowing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rick - hold the &#039;deposit credits&#039; in escrow ... I like it! Thanks for the suggestion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rick &#8211; hold the &#8216;deposit credits&#8217; in escrow &#8230; I like it! Thanks for the suggestion <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, if you call yourself a bank, you can inflate the appraisal from $250k to $380k, find some poor sap who doesn&#039;t have a chance in hades to afford the home and give him a 12-month interest only loan for the princly deal of $5,000 in closing costs and then take the home from him 12 months later in foreclosure.  And that&#039;s all legal!  Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, if you call yourself a bank, you can inflate the appraisal from $250k to $380k, find some poor sap who doesn&#8217;t have a chance in hades to afford the home and give him a 12-month interest only loan for the princly deal of $5,000 in closing costs and then take the home from him 12 months later in foreclosure.  And that&#8217;s all legal!  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian,

The thing that struck me was: 
&gt;the rogues go broke or their companies collapse (as many do)

I find it pretty amazing that the rogues often go broke charging double rent and putting an extra $100K built into their selling price.  Of course they are rogues so they probably are stealing from their own companies too.

I thought there must be a money making opportunity if one wasn&#039;t trying to run a scam.  I liked your plan- one suggestion the deposit fund should be held by a third party so that there is a better assurance for the renter that if you go broke they can get their deposit back.

-Rick Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>The thing that struck me was:<br />
&gt;the rogues go broke or their companies collapse (as many do)</p>
<p>I find it pretty amazing that the rogues often go broke charging double rent and putting an extra $100K built into their selling price.  Of course they are rogues so they probably are stealing from their own companies too.</p>
<p>I thought there must be a money making opportunity if one wasn&#8217;t trying to run a scam.  I liked your plan- one suggestion the deposit fund should be held by a third party so that there is a better assurance for the renter that if you go broke they can get their deposit back.</p>
<p>-Rick Francis</p>
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