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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andee - I totally agree with you it&#039;s like we are both singing the same song just different verses.  This has been a most interesting post, thanks for joining us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andee &#8211; I totally agree with you it&#8217;s like we are both singing the same song just different verses.  This has been a most interesting post, thanks for joining us.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People of faith, especially those who are keen to become wealthy, may have the problems of side-stepping the &quot;evils of money&quot; by addressing how they respond to this statement:

&quot;There are things you can buy, but the question is, should you buy them?&quot;

Some people have criticised the business partner of Bill Gates who bought a yacht for $100 million dollars - is that ever justifiable?

Or consider the rich man who travels in his car to go and buy gold taps for his bathroom on a freezing cold day, and passes lots of poor children playing in the streets with no coats on.

And the bright young things who are repeatedly photographed in London night-clubs: people like Paris Hilton, who is set to inherit billions, yes billions, of dollars.

Is that outrageous, when so many have so little, or does she deserve it because of the business skills of her papa?

Would it be so terrible if that sum was reduced to, say, $1 million per year for 100 years and the balance was used to help the unfortunate? Would she really personally notice that it was no longer billions in her bank? What figure would you say is reasonable for her to retain?

My sensitivity to this issue was raised by the Reith Lectures, an annual event on BBC Radio 4 where a major speaker talks about some significant social issue.

Only one of the four programmes has been broadcast so far, but it was Professor Michael Sandel of Harvard who posed that question at the top of this comment, and he will get around to answering it in this series called: &quot;Markets and Morals&quot;.

A most appropriate subject after the recent catastrophic collapse. He usefully examines &quot;What is the role of the concerned citizen in all this?&quot; which is very apposite to this particular post.

Audio and video at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt7rg

Although it may be difficult to determine the most appropriate Biblical reference to quote, perhaps it would be more helpful to consider the societal impacts of wealth, and those who hoard it to themselves irrespective of the clear needs of others.

Would you buy gold taps? Would you be upset that other people thought you shouldn&#039;t? You cannot be wealthy in isolation - to my mind it brings with it obligations to the rest of society; as the great US philanthropists of the past said: &quot;I got rich so I could give it away&quot;.

Does that raise any difficult issues, especially in our reaction to those who have the cash but not the generous spirit?

KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of faith, especially those who are keen to become wealthy, may have the problems of side-stepping the &#8220;evils of money&#8221; by addressing how they respond to this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are things you can buy, but the question is, should you buy them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some people have criticised the business partner of Bill Gates who bought a yacht for $100 million dollars &#8211; is that ever justifiable?</p>
<p>Or consider the rich man who travels in his car to go and buy gold taps for his bathroom on a freezing cold day, and passes lots of poor children playing in the streets with no coats on.</p>
<p>And the bright young things who are repeatedly photographed in London night-clubs: people like Paris Hilton, who is set to inherit billions, yes billions, of dollars.</p>
<p>Is that outrageous, when so many have so little, or does she deserve it because of the business skills of her papa?</p>
<p>Would it be so terrible if that sum was reduced to, say, $1 million per year for 100 years and the balance was used to help the unfortunate? Would she really personally notice that it was no longer billions in her bank? What figure would you say is reasonable for her to retain?</p>
<p>My sensitivity to this issue was raised by the Reith Lectures, an annual event on BBC Radio 4 where a major speaker talks about some significant social issue.</p>
<p>Only one of the four programmes has been broadcast so far, but it was Professor Michael Sandel of Harvard who posed that question at the top of this comment, and he will get around to answering it in this series called: &#8220;Markets and Morals&#8221;.</p>
<p>A most appropriate subject after the recent catastrophic collapse. He usefully examines &#8220;What is the role of the concerned citizen in all this?&#8221; which is very apposite to this particular post.</p>
<p>Audio and video at:<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt7rg" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt7rg</a></p>
<p>Although it may be difficult to determine the most appropriate Biblical reference to quote, perhaps it would be more helpful to consider the societal impacts of wealth, and those who hoard it to themselves irrespective of the clear needs of others.</p>
<p>Would you buy gold taps? Would you be upset that other people thought you shouldn&#8217;t? You cannot be wealthy in isolation &#8211; to my mind it brings with it obligations to the rest of society; as the great US philanthropists of the past said: &#8220;I got rich so I could give it away&#8221;.</p>
<p>Does that raise any difficult issues, especially in our reaction to those who have the cash but not the generous spirit?</p>
<p>KC</p>
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		<title>By: Andee Sellman, One Sherpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andee Sellman, One Sherpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee - While I have some sympathy for the theory of being able to serve God and make a lot of money, the parable of the rich young ruler makes it clear that this is not necessarily an easy thing to do.
The facts are that it is possible to live a physical life in this world without God but it is very difficult to live life without money.
Think about how many decisions get made in daily life that are dependent on money. I know that in our family money plays a significant part of how decisions are made.
I also believe that Jesus would not have made the statement in Matthew if there was not an issue in his day. I still think that the issue is really about dependance which runs to the heart of serving.
Maybe a better way to think about this scripture is this:
Are you more dependant on God or Money?
I know that for a large part of my life I was more dependant on money than God even though I was a regular church goer, a person who tithed and also gave money away to support less fortunate people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee &#8211; While I have some sympathy for the theory of being able to serve God and make a lot of money, the parable of the rich young ruler makes it clear that this is not necessarily an easy thing to do.<br />
The facts are that it is possible to live a physical life in this world without God but it is very difficult to live life without money.<br />
Think about how many decisions get made in daily life that are dependent on money. I know that in our family money plays a significant part of how decisions are made.<br />
I also believe that Jesus would not have made the statement in Matthew if there was not an issue in his day. I still think that the issue is really about dependance which runs to the heart of serving.<br />
Maybe a better way to think about this scripture is this:<br />
Are you more dependant on God or Money?<br />
I know that for a large part of my life I was more dependant on money than God even though I was a regular church goer, a person who tithed and also gave money away to support less fortunate people.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andee - with reference to the Matthew 6:24 scripture the key word is &quot;serve&quot;.  It is possible to &quot;serve&quot; God and make a lot of money, our churches are full of people who are doing just that. It&#039;s all a matter of what is most important and what has first place in your heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andee &#8211; with reference to the Matthew 6:24 scripture the key word is &#8220;serve&#8221;.  It is possible to &#8220;serve&#8221; God and make a lot of money, our churches are full of people who are doing just that. It&#8217;s all a matter of what is most important and what has first place in your heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl Jung said: &quot;Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism&quot;.

I&#039;d put both an excessive love for money and an obession with God/religion/morality in there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Jung said: &#8220;Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d put both an excessive love for money and an obession with God/religion/morality in there too.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People of faith need to be a little more critical, though, than the average investor.

For instance, some commenters above feel they can do more good if they are richer, and so becoming richer must be just fine.

But say you decide to invest in mineral extraction companies like, say, BHP Billiton and their new open-cast aluminium mine in Africa will flood a massive area with no recompense for hundreds of local inhabitants, then the fact that you&#039;ve become richer and donate some of that to charity or to your church is still problematic.

So although you may do good things with the profits you make, sometimes its important to look a little more closely at precisely how the company was able to make that money for you.

I&#039;m also reminded of children in Turkey sitting in poorly ventilated sheds with solvent-laden adhesives for 15 hours a day sticking the soles onto Nike trainers for 10 cents a day.

And mothers in the Carribean sewing sweat-shirts with Mickey Mouse on the front for 15 cents a shirt, when they are sold at retail in the States for $70, and then when they asked to be paid 20 cents a shirt to be able to more easily feed their children, they were told: &quot;Shut up, or we fire you&quot;.

So simply doing good with the money you make sometimes isn&#039;t enough.

KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of faith need to be a little more critical, though, than the average investor.</p>
<p>For instance, some commenters above feel they can do more good if they are richer, and so becoming richer must be just fine.</p>
<p>But say you decide to invest in mineral extraction companies like, say, BHP Billiton and their new open-cast aluminium mine in Africa will flood a massive area with no recompense for hundreds of local inhabitants, then the fact that you&#8217;ve become richer and donate some of that to charity or to your church is still problematic.</p>
<p>So although you may do good things with the profits you make, sometimes its important to look a little more closely at precisely how the company was able to make that money for you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also reminded of children in Turkey sitting in poorly ventilated sheds with solvent-laden adhesives for 15 hours a day sticking the soles onto Nike trainers for 10 cents a day.</p>
<p>And mothers in the Carribean sewing sweat-shirts with Mickey Mouse on the front for 15 cents a shirt, when they are sold at retail in the States for $70, and then when they asked to be paid 20 cents a shirt to be able to more easily feed their children, they were told: &#8220;Shut up, or we fire you&#8221;.</p>
<p>So simply doing good with the money you make sometimes isn&#8217;t enough.</p>
<p>KC</p>
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		<title>By: Andee Sellman, One Sherpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andee Sellman, One Sherpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adrian,
Great to see your perspective on this and the fact that you took the trouble to go back and find the correct quote from the bible.
Another scripture which seems to go with this perspective of the fact that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil is:
Matthew 6 : 24 &quot;You can not be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money&quot;
So you can see that this supports your argument that it is all about the LOVE and very little to do with the money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adrian,<br />
Great to see your perspective on this and the fact that you took the trouble to go back and find the correct quote from the bible.<br />
Another scripture which seems to go with this perspective of the fact that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil is:<br />
Matthew 6 : 24 &#8220;You can not be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money&#8221;<br />
So you can see that this supports your argument that it is all about the LOVE and very little to do with the money</p>
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		<title>By: AJC @ 7Million7Years</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC @ 7Million7Years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments, guys! Thanks, Lee. And, I&#039;m shipping all that &#039;evil money&#039; to you right now, Rick ;)

I might add that I am commenting &#039;late&#039; because I had a problem accessing my WordPress accounts and couldn&#039;t seem to get anybody from their Support team to respond to my support requests ... it was a very LONG weekend :( Anyway, I seem to be back now!

Adrian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments, guys! Thanks, Lee. And, I&#8217;m shipping all that &#8216;evil money&#8217; to you right now, Rick <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I might add that I am commenting &#8216;late&#8217; because I had a problem accessing my WordPress accounts and couldn&#8217;t seem to get anybody from their Support team to respond to my support requests &#8230; it was a very LONG weekend <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway, I seem to be back now!</p>
<p>Adrian.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article i might add and  great  comments  as well. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article i might add and  great  comments  as well. <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loving Money I believe is a common thing, but Loving it to the point of  crime against others, thats the  evil part ...

 I  think most  everyone Loves money, its the  earning it that usually is the  unlovable part.(with  some  exceptions)!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving Money I believe is a common thing, but Loving it to the point of  crime against others, thats the  evil part &#8230;</p>
<p> I  think most  everyone Loves money, its the  earning it that usually is the  unlovable part.(with  some  exceptions)!!!!</p>
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