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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/11/17/the-correct-way-to-look-at-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Diane - Then I&#039;d need to start charging astronomical fees for commonsense advice! But, thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Diane &#8211; Then I&#8217;d need to start charging astronomical fees for commonsense advice! But, thanks <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, I like the idea of thinking of them (all of them, which are merely different choices) as investments.  That&#039;s definitely in an MBA toolbox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, I like the idea of thinking of them (all of them, which are merely different choices) as investments.  That&#8217;s definitely in an MBA toolbox!</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/11/17/the-correct-way-to-look-at-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff - If I am serious about investing (i.e. as a Making Money 201 activity), I am struggling to find a scenario where putting my money into REDUCING leverage (by paying down existing loans) returns more that taking on new &#039;good&#039; debt (e.g. to support a &#039;good&#039; real-estate investment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff &#8211; If I am serious about investing (i.e. as a Making Money 201 activity), I am struggling to find a scenario where putting my money into REDUCING leverage (by paying down existing loans) returns more that taking on new &#8216;good&#8217; debt (e.g. to support a &#8216;good&#8217; real-estate investment).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJC -

Let&#039;s change the discussion just a bit.  Assuming debt other than a mortgage (so now there are no real tax implications, only inflation) where do you think the interest rate decision point is.

My opinion is to still compare your debt interest to prevailing debt rates (is it cheap money compared to what else is available?), how does inflation affect the rate (cheaper future dollars point again) and can I out perform the debt rates with the investment opportunity that is competing for this money.

Without the tax advantage, I&#039;m more inclined to pay off the debt, i.e. lower tolerance for high debt interest.

I haven&#039;t done any math on it...yet, but my gut feel is that 6% or higher on the debt and I&#039;d be giving serious thought to paying off the loans.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJC -</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s change the discussion just a bit.  Assuming debt other than a mortgage (so now there are no real tax implications, only inflation) where do you think the interest rate decision point is.</p>
<p>My opinion is to still compare your debt interest to prevailing debt rates (is it cheap money compared to what else is available?), how does inflation affect the rate (cheaper future dollars point again) and can I out perform the debt rates with the investment opportunity that is competing for this money.</p>
<p>Without the tax advantage, I&#8217;m more inclined to pay off the debt, i.e. lower tolerance for high debt interest.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t done any math on it&#8230;yet, but my gut feel is that 6% or higher on the debt and I&#8217;d be giving serious thought to paying off the loans.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff - provided that you are committed to using the mortgage (or other current debt payment) as investment money, then the semantic difference is critical to thinking about this correctly. Which is also why I say why would you pay down a deductible 7% - 10% loan IF a 12% - 15% (or better) investment is within your range (of interest/skill/etc.)?

I say IF because if you are looking at only investing in CD&#039;s to Mutual Funds, then your 10% range is probably spot on.

BTW: the only links allowed in posts are relevant links to specific articles etc. ... if relevant these CAN be on your own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff &#8211; provided that you are committed to using the mortgage (or other current debt payment) as investment money, then the semantic difference is critical to thinking about this correctly. Which is also why I say why would you pay down a deductible 7% &#8211; 10% loan IF a 12% &#8211; 15% (or better) investment is within your range (of interest/skill/etc.)?</p>
<p>I say IF because if you are looking at only investing in CD&#8217;s to Mutual Funds, then your 10% range is probably spot on.</p>
<p>BTW: the only links allowed in posts are relevant links to specific articles etc. &#8230; if relevant these CAN be on your own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the interest rate would be a big factor in the decision making.  Let&#039;s take my home mortgage.  I have a 30 year fixed loan at 5.375% which is pretty cheap money regardless of taxes.  However it gets even cheaper when you consider the mortgage interest tax deduction and inflation (which means I&#039;m paying the loan with future cheaper dollars.

I&#039;m not spring loaded to pay that debt down and would rather invest  than pre-pay.  Same argument would stand for a low interest student loan.  I&#039;m guessing, but I bet Scott has a couple of these that he factors into his decision making.

Now on the other hand if interest rates on my debt were in the area of say 7-10% (which still isn&#039;t as high as some folks have on their consumer credit cards), I&#039;d be a bit more inclined to pay down the debt rather than invest.

AJC hits this debt paydown point above and calls it an investment as well, however, I view it more as a cost avoidance vice investment.  But that&#039;s probably a small dogs vs. puppies point.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the interest rate would be a big factor in the decision making.  Let&#8217;s take my home mortgage.  I have a 30 year fixed loan at 5.375% which is pretty cheap money regardless of taxes.  However it gets even cheaper when you consider the mortgage interest tax deduction and inflation (which means I&#8217;m paying the loan with future cheaper dollars.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not spring loaded to pay that debt down and would rather invest  than pre-pay.  Same argument would stand for a low interest student loan.  I&#8217;m guessing, but I bet Scott has a couple of these that he factors into his decision making.</p>
<p>Now on the other hand if interest rates on my debt were in the area of say 7-10% (which still isn&#8217;t as high as some folks have on their consumer credit cards), I&#8217;d be a bit more inclined to pay down the debt rather than invest.</p>
<p>AJC hits this debt paydown point above and calls it an investment as well, however, I view it more as a cost avoidance vice investment.  But that&#8217;s probably a small dogs vs. puppies point.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adrian - At least not for the next 10 years ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adrian &#8211; At least not for the next 10 years <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ MoneyMonk - I agree, personal finance is exactly that: personal.

But, BradOK&#039;s question was a simple one: what&#039;s the BEST use of his money. From a financial perspective, that&#039;s by putting it into the investment that provides the highest return.

@ Scott - Working ONLY 40 hours a week; that&#039;s a luxury that doctors and entrepreneurs can&#039;t afford ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MoneyMonk &#8211; I agree, personal finance is exactly that: personal.</p>
<p>But, BradOK&#8217;s question was a simple one: what&#8217;s the BEST use of his money. From a financial perspective, that&#8217;s by putting it into the investment that provides the highest return.</p>
<p>@ Scott &#8211; Working ONLY 40 hours a week; that&#8217;s a luxury that doctors and entrepreneurs can&#8217;t afford <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The average person works 40 hours a week, and frankly they will not have the time to research this&quot;

Unfortunately for those who feel this way, they will probably have to continue to work 40 hours per week the rest of their lives.

This post is just clearly demonstrating the fasted possible way toward building the largest investment portfolio you possibly can, in the shortest amount of given time, regardless of a persons risk aversion or comfort zones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The average person works 40 hours a week, and frankly they will not have the time to research this&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately for those who feel this way, they will probably have to continue to work 40 hours per week the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>This post is just clearly demonstrating the fasted possible way toward building the largest investment portfolio you possibly can, in the shortest amount of given time, regardless of a persons risk aversion or comfort zones.</p>
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		<title>By: Moneymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moneymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; What investment will give me a greater AFTER TAX return&quot;

The average person works 40 hours a week, and frankly they will not have the time to research this

I think the short answer is pay off the debt since it requires no homework or additional skills.

I did both: paid off debt and invested and saved, everyone personality towards money is different. There is no one size fits all in the world of personal finance

It depends of his risk level and money style

Some people are conservative and some are aggresive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; What investment will give me a greater AFTER TAX return&#8221;</p>
<p>The average person works 40 hours a week, and frankly they will not have the time to research this</p>
<p>I think the short answer is pay off the debt since it requires no homework or additional skills.</p>
<p>I did both: paid off debt and invested and saved, everyone personality towards money is different. There is no one size fits all in the world of personal finance</p>
<p>It depends of his risk level and money style</p>
<p>Some people are conservative and some are aggresive</p>
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