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		<title>By: The true cost of &#8216;helpers&#8217; &#8230; &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>The true cost of &#8216;helpers&#8217; &#8230; &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 23, 2008   Investing Tags: buffett, Investing, millionaire, money, Rich      Last month, I wrote a post that was a little scathing about what I call &#8216;middle-men&#8217; and Warren Buffett calls [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 23, 2008   Investing Tags: buffett, Investing, millionaire, money, Rich      Last month, I wrote a post that was a little scathing about what I call &#8216;middle-men&#8217; and Warren Buffett calls [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Meg - agree on trades ... I am using a broker on a UK stock deal - horrible experience; and Scottrade for US trades - bloody marvelous, by comparison (and, at $7 a trade!).

Have to disagree on realtor ... acting for yourself, is having a fool for a client ;) Also, even the type of detailed info that you can get on the MLS (e.g. on multi-unit residential) is much better for brokers than for the public ... but, I&#039;m open if you have sources that I haven&#039;t seen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Meg &#8211; agree on trades &#8230; I am using a broker on a UK stock deal &#8211; horrible experience; and Scottrade for US trades &#8211; bloody marvelous, by comparison (and, at $7 a trade!).</p>
<p>Have to disagree on realtor &#8230; acting for yourself, is having a fool for a client <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also, even the type of detailed info that you can get on the MLS (e.g. on multi-unit residential) is much better for brokers than for the public &#8230; but, I&#8217;m open if you have sources that I haven&#8217;t seen?</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Middlemen are less and less useful/helpful as information to consumers increases.  Real estate agents and stockbrokers, for instance, used to have access to all kinds of information that the average joe simply couldn&#039;t get.  Therefore the average joe paid high fees and commissions to those intermediaries.

Not so today.  People can now access information on the cost and value of goods and services from a variety of providers.  This increases competition which drives down prices.  People can now invest via discount brokerages for less than $10 a trade - a fraction of the previous generation&#039;s prices.  People can sell their homes without paying a realtor 6%, saving tens of thousands of dollars.  Eventually intermediaries will not be needed at all in some industries (like how you can now get insurance directly from insurers without going through an expensive broker).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Middlemen are less and less useful/helpful as information to consumers increases.  Real estate agents and stockbrokers, for instance, used to have access to all kinds of information that the average joe simply couldn&#8217;t get.  Therefore the average joe paid high fees and commissions to those intermediaries.</p>
<p>Not so today.  People can now access information on the cost and value of goods and services from a variety of providers.  This increases competition which drives down prices.  People can now invest via discount brokerages for less than $10 a trade &#8211; a fraction of the previous generation&#8217;s prices.  People can sell their homes without paying a realtor 6%, saving tens of thousands of dollars.  Eventually intermediaries will not be needed at all in some industries (like how you can now get insurance directly from insurers without going through an expensive broker).</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Moom - Buffett holds the hedge fund guys up as the pinnacle of &#039;helpers&#039;, but not just ... actually, some of my best friends are hedge fund guys. Not &#039;investing&#039;, though ...

BTW: I&#039;m doing a f/u post on the impact of the sorts of &#039;ordinary fees&#039; charged on portfolio returns ... it&#039;s scary what even 1% can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Moom &#8211; Buffett holds the hedge fund guys up as the pinnacle of &#8216;helpers&#8217;, but not just &#8230; actually, some of my best friends are hedge fund guys. Not &#8216;investing&#8217;, though &#8230;</p>
<p>BTW: I&#8217;m doing a f/u post on the impact of the sorts of &#8216;ordinary fees&#8217; charged on portfolio returns &#8230; it&#8217;s scary what even 1% can do.</p>
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		<title>By: moom</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>moom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Buffett was mainly targeting hedge fund managers and private equity managers who take 2 &amp; 20. The bottom line is that some of these guys are worth paying high fees to but many and maybe the majority are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Buffett was mainly targeting hedge fund managers and private equity managers who take 2 &amp; 20. The bottom line is that some of these guys are worth paying high fees to but many and maybe the majority are not.</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Andrew - we can agree to agree :) It&#039;s how WE profit that really counts. Thanks for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andrew &#8211; we can agree to agree <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s how WE profit that really counts. Thanks for your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AJC No doubt there are more fees in mutual funds or etfs beyond the AUM fee charged by any adviser. I also agree with your and Warrens assertion that it is near impossible to achieve any reasonable return after such fees; I was simply making the point that there are independent advisers out there who do not profit from such mutual fund and etf fees.

That being said I would never delegate my financial planning to anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AJC No doubt there are more fees in mutual funds or etfs beyond the AUM fee charged by any adviser. I also agree with your and Warrens assertion that it is near impossible to achieve any reasonable return after such fees; I was simply making the point that there are independent advisers out there who do not profit from such mutual fund and etf fees.</p>
<p>That being said I would never delegate my financial planning to anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Andrew - you make the point about a 1% differential ... to which you must add the 1%+ charged (as deducted from your deposits and or returns) by the funds he most-likely recommends; that comes out of YOUR pocket and is a lot to make up ... Warren Buffett would say it&#039;s an impossible chasm and I would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andrew &#8211; you make the point about a 1% differential &#8230; to which you must add the 1%+ charged (as deducted from your deposits and or returns) by the funds he most-likely recommends; that comes out of YOUR pocket and is a lot to make up &#8230; Warren Buffett would say it&#8217;s an impossible chasm and I would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many advisers out there who operate on a fee only basis, and thus make no money from larger financial institutions; but even those advisers are not worth the minimum 1% AUM that most charge.

The primary reason why financial advisers provide little value to most individuals is because advisers are typically paid based on how many products they sell or what level of assets they have under management. This means that their income is never to determined by whether they can decipher where the market is going or what stocks are going to do well. Of course this means that their focus leans toward increasing sales or AUM.

Because of this the main value they provide is to help a client diversify his or her assets among different asset classes, but this type of research can easily be done by anyone with an interest in their own future and thus renders any financial adviser obsolete.

Just an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many advisers out there who operate on a fee only basis, and thus make no money from larger financial institutions; but even those advisers are not worth the minimum 1% AUM that most charge.</p>
<p>The primary reason why financial advisers provide little value to most individuals is because advisers are typically paid based on how many products they sell or what level of assets they have under management. This means that their income is never to determined by whether they can decipher where the market is going or what stocks are going to do well. Of course this means that their focus leans toward increasing sales or AUM.</p>
<p>Because of this the main value they provide is to help a client diversify his or her assets among different asset classes, but this type of research can easily be done by anyone with an interest in their own future and thus renders any financial adviser obsolete.</p>
<p>Just an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://7million7years.com/2008/05/24/why-do-we-need-middle-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>AJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chris - I am not saying that you shouldn&#039;t seek financial advice ... quite the opposite. It&#039;s just a question of who/where you get the advice from ... stay tuned for a follow-up post addressing that very question,

Your Friend (no quotes required), AJC :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chris &#8211; I am not saying that you shouldn&#8217;t seek financial advice &#8230; quite the opposite. It&#8217;s just a question of who/where you get the advice from &#8230; stay tuned for a follow-up post addressing that very question,</p>
<p>Your Friend (no quotes required), AJC <img src='http://7million7years.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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